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timberwolf



Aug 11, 08 - 10:41 AM
Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

After listening to the new IB album a few times I think any Kino fans desperate for a new album could do a lot worse than give it a listen. Ok, the harmony vocals are very IB, but then again the lead vocals are obviously more Kino than old IB! IB recorded this album without a bass player, now if Kino did the same...that would leave John M,John B and Bob and that's exactly who made the IB album.

So is it a fourth IB album or a second Kino? Well, I think it falls pretty evenly in both camps actually (and probably the best of both).
wickedwitch



Aug 24th, 2008 - 6:27 PM
Re: Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

much as i didnt want to like it, i cant help it. It's a glo-o-o-orious album.
wickedwitch



Aug 29th, 2008 - 8:33 AM
Re: Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

i find it pleasantly reassuring that new posts on here still have quite a lot of views.

Who is still on here?
RacingHippo



Aug 31st, 2008 - 12:17 AM
Re: Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

> Who is still on here?
Ain't nobody here but us Chickinos

Before it was released, I wondered muchly how Kino-ish Tall Ships would be, what with the melodic half of Kino being the melodic half of IB.

Thing is, though, what is the "Kino sound"? Pictures was such a fantastic mixture of styles, it's impossible to choose any one as being definitive.

For me, the principle differences between IB mkII and Kino are:
1. The vocal arrangements.
An IB signature is the phrase/answer between lead and backing (cf. "And the days go by / Screaming on the beaches", "All alone, so far away from home / How does it feel?")
2. Bob Dalton / Chris Maitland.
Perhaps this is more noticeable to me as a drummer, but there’s a huge difference in styles which shapes the overlying songs.
Bob plays a very precise, very strong style, and he rarely puts any extra strokes in that aren’t really necessary. For the most part, you’d think the parts were straightforward and any amateur player could mimic them… then he does something extraordinary with an asymmetric time signature or polymetric rhythm that leaves you skipping back over the track to attempt to work out how exactly the hell he just did that (I still haven’t figured out the metre change in Oh My God – must try it when I’m not driving!).
Mr Maitland, on the other hand, is an out-and-out prog drummer. Loads of lovely fiddly bits. I like to dream that I could play like him...

And that, I believe, shapes much of the style of the two bands.

All that said, while listening to Tall Ships in the car today, and bearing this thread in mind, I concluded that "Memory of Water", "Lights" and "This is England" could probably have lived on a Kino album without anyone raising an eyebrow.
Thoughts?

Crikey. Barely post a word for ages, then suddenly 300 of 'em come out!
wickedwitch



Aug 31st, 2008 - 12:34 AM
Re: Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

hello J, ooh while i remember, my new puter is up and running so i should be able to sort out that disc for you pretty soon. sorry for delay.
nx
yes



Nov 3rd, 2008 - 12:29 AM
Re: Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

I think a fair few could have been on Kino 2 without too much hassle. That's not to take anything away from IB. But with new IB you do have 3/4 of live Kino.

Either way it's rockin'!
eckhard



Nov 24th, 2008 - 7:23 AM
Re: Is The Tall Ships a good follow-up to Picture?

Every time I sit in the car I listen to it - my only chance to play the album loudly. I really like the album (I´m not really familiar with the "old" It bites), so to me it is like listening to the second kino-album.
Can`t wait to see It bites supporting Saga in Germany!
Bought the two "Frost"-albums recently. I think you need to listen to them a few times before you get really into them.


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